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		<title>Comment on SM 4 B2B by Katie Konrath</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/10/30/sm-4-b2b/#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Konrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might be a little late, but I just saw your query so I'll answer it anyways.

Social media in the Facebook/Twitter sense probably won't have much value for B2B customers of the type you described above.  Even if they are on Facebook, they won't get interested in your client's company via a widget, or a fun game.

Your client should look at social media as a way to demonstrate expertise in the field.  They could write helpful articles, and solicit questions from clients - which they would then post on a blog.  I would say that they should focus more on having quality content that proves their thought-leadership than on getting huge amounts of subscribers.  They could answer questions, and write about how current events (or different times of the year) affect the decisions their clients should be making.

This could even be done as a weekly instructional podcast or YouTube video.

The improved search results and the ability to demonstrate their expertise consistently will prove to be very helpful to them in the long-run.  It's very important for them to develop that base now, and then if they find that Twitter or the more "fun" social media tools have relevance, they can easily add those things later.

Your client is right in thinking that not all social media is right for them.  But that shouldn't keep them away from it - it just means they need to carefully chose their mediums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be a little late, but I just saw your query so I&#8217;ll answer it anyways.</p>
<p>Social media in the Facebook/Twitter sense probably won&#8217;t have much value for B2B customers of the type you described above.  Even if they are on Facebook, they won&#8217;t get interested in your client&#8217;s company via a widget, or a fun game.</p>
<p>Your client should look at social media as a way to demonstrate expertise in the field.  They could write helpful articles, and solicit questions from clients - which they would then post on a blog.  I would say that they should focus more on having quality content that proves their thought-leadership than on getting huge amounts of subscribers.  They could answer questions, and write about how current events (or different times of the year) affect the decisions their clients should be making.</p>
<p>This could even be done as a weekly instructional podcast or YouTube video.</p>
<p>The improved search results and the ability to demonstrate their expertise consistently will prove to be very helpful to them in the long-run.  It&#8217;s very important for them to develop that base now, and then if they find that Twitter or the more &#8220;fun&#8221; social media tools have relevance, they can easily add those things later.</p>
<p>Your client is right in thinking that not all social media is right for them.  But that shouldn&#8217;t keep them away from it - it just means they need to carefully chose their mediums.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Punching the clock by Ryan Eastabrook</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/07/08/punching-the-clock/#comment-1441</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Eastabrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Don,

This sounds great, I'm sold!  However, as a software development service provider it is hard enough to generate revenue through services, and in the same breath focus your attention on your own ideas...this simply takes my 70 hour work week and makes it 90-100...in which case I end up with a half-baked solution that I end up scrapping anyway.  IMO, the trick is to generate enough TIME to develop the solutions you are talking about...I'm not sure about you, but it seems like time is one thing there never seems to be enough of ;)

Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Don,</p>
<p>This sounds great, I&#8217;m sold!  However, as a software development service provider it is hard enough to generate revenue through services, and in the same breath focus your attention on your own ideas&#8230;this simply takes my 70 hour work week and makes it 90-100&#8230;in which case I end up with a half-baked solution that I end up scrapping anyway.  IMO, the trick is to generate enough TIME to develop the solutions you are talking about&#8230;I&#8217;m not sure about you, but it seems like time is one thing there never seems to be enough of <img src='http://polymerstudios.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your own luck in a tight job market by Don Ball</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/11/08/making-your-own-luck-in-a-tight-job-market/#comment-1436</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you're absolutely right. In my haste, I didn't clear the photo. My apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you&#8217;re absolutely right. In my haste, I didn&#8217;t clear the photo. My apologies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your own luck in a tight job market by Chris Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,

Love the post - really good tips.  You forgot one important tip, however.

Always - ALWAYS - make sure that you have the permission of the photographer BEFORE you use the photo. 

I'm the photographer that took the picture you used.  I posted it on my photoblog.  I've checked my records - and there's no evidence anywhere that you asked permission to re-use my photo.

Remove the photo immediately, please - and in the future, ASK before you use photos. Alternatively, contact me directly, and we can work out a RATE for your use of my photo.  Since my wife is a professional photographer, I'm quite familiar with the statutes in Canada and the US regarding this.

I'd have thought that a web consultant would know better.

Chris Gray
http://www.twisia.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Love the post - really good tips.  You forgot one important tip, however.</p>
<p>Always - ALWAYS - make sure that you have the permission of the photographer BEFORE you use the photo. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m the photographer that took the picture you used.  I posted it on my photoblog.  I&#8217;ve checked my records - and there&#8217;s no evidence anywhere that you asked permission to re-use my photo.</p>
<p>Remove the photo immediately, please - and in the future, ASK before you use photos. Alternatively, contact me directly, and we can work out a RATE for your use of my photo.  Since my wife is a professional photographer, I&#8217;m quite familiar with the statutes in Canada and the US regarding this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have thought that a web consultant would know better.</p>
<p>Chris Gray<br />
<a href="http://www.twisia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.twisia.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your own luck in a tight job market by SnowProfessor</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/11/08/making-your-own-luck-in-a-tight-job-market/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>SnowProfessor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social networks really do work! I connected with a company in CA, flew to LA for an interview (where I got to meet Kirk Douglas tagging along on a shoot) and had a job offer all from Twitter. The platform allows you become involved in other each others lives and connect more sincerely than a phone interview or lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social networks really do work! I connected with a company in CA, flew to LA for an interview (where I got to meet Kirk Douglas tagging along on a shoot) and had a job offer all from Twitter. The platform allows you become involved in other each others lives and connect more sincerely than a phone interview or lunch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SM 4 B2B by pjbfcp</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/10/30/sm-4-b2b/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>pjbfcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,
I don't think that B2B should be ruled out of the digi-social marketplace. It's easy to say that selling financial systems to large corps. is to drab for the hip, cool world of Social Media. However, connections are connections. My father was a banker who used "social" means to convince clients to get loans from his bank. What's different today is that social can mean lots of thing. Your friend buying virtual whiskeys for clients on facebook isn't going to close the deal. These CFOs are people. This means that they are sharing their opinions and communicating with people like them somewhere on the web. Creating a social strategy for that client might not be the same as a B2C client but where ever people are talking is where you should be listening. If it was my client I'd start looking at the comments on WSJ.com and FT.com for patterns. Finding articles related to the problems which the products solve would be another idea. It's the places where these people open up and share and are willing to create dialogue that you can join the conversation and add value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,<br />
I don&#8217;t think that B2B should be ruled out of the digi-social marketplace. It&#8217;s easy to say that selling financial systems to large corps. is to drab for the hip, cool world of Social Media. However, connections are connections. My father was a banker who used &#8220;social&#8221; means to convince clients to get loans from his bank. What&#8217;s different today is that social can mean lots of thing. Your friend buying virtual whiskeys for clients on facebook isn&#8217;t going to close the deal. These CFOs are people. This means that they are sharing their opinions and communicating with people like them somewhere on the web. Creating a social strategy for that client might not be the same as a B2C client but where ever people are talking is where you should be listening. If it was my client I&#8217;d start looking at the comments on WSJ.com and FT.com for patterns. Finding articles related to the problems which the products solve would be another idea. It&#8217;s the places where these people open up and share and are willing to create dialogue that you can join the conversation and add value.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SM 4 B2B by Don Ball</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/10/30/sm-4-b2b/#comment-1304</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for your comments. Craig, your results are impressive. Nice  to be able to point to some statistical and not just anecdotal progress. Desarae, I agree that one option is to build a meeting place, if one doesn't exist. And Meg, thank you for the links. 

Lastly, I want to post a reply that I received from Tim Naylor, Creative Director at Yamamoto Moss Mackenzie. Thanks, Tim!

"My answer would be, no, not a special b2b social media site. Those CFOs are human too, and I think they are indeed waiting around online to be engaged. If they’re not, they won’t have their jobs for very long, because they won’t have a clue which way the culture is going.

To put it another way, did you have to watch and understand television in 1960 to be a successful upper-level manager? You bet."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for your comments. Craig, your results are impressive. Nice  to be able to point to some statistical and not just anecdotal progress. Desarae, I agree that one option is to build a meeting place, if one doesn&#8217;t exist. And Meg, thank you for the links. </p>
<p>Lastly, I want to post a reply that I received from Tim Naylor, Creative Director at Yamamoto Moss Mackenzie. Thanks, Tim!</p>
<p>&#8220;My answer would be, no, not a special b2b social media site. Those CFOs are human too, and I think they are indeed waiting around online to be engaged. If they’re not, they won’t have their jobs for very long, because they won’t have a clue which way the culture is going.</p>
<p>To put it another way, did you have to watch and understand television in 1960 to be a successful upper-level manager? You bet.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on SM 4 B2B by Meg Canada</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/10/30/sm-4-b2b/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, 

Craig's points were excellent. I would add there is something to be said for transparency whether you deal directly with consumers or other businesses. Use social media to humanize and add authenticity for your operation. While there is a time investment in creating this authentic and human presence, there is no cost to join most social networks and build relationships. One way to get started is to assign staff who are saavvy and wise enough about message to start engaging in a handful of networks as a professional development activity. LinkedIn, WordPress, and Twitter might offer a handful of points of departure. Have them tell your story and theirs with the organization. See how the visibility and following builds. 

I recommend the following articles when sharing information with novices about social media in business: 
*The See-Through CEO from Wired Magazine which eloquently describes the paradigm shift from closed secretive business practices to radical trust and social openess: 
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html
*Brave New World of Digital Intimacy from the New York Times where the term ambient awareness and the phenomenon of the current generation of tools is well-described:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/magazine/07awareness-t.html?partner=permalink&#38;exprod=permalink

Meg Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, </p>
<p>Craig&#8217;s points were excellent. I would add there is something to be said for transparency whether you deal directly with consumers or other businesses. Use social media to humanize and add authenticity for your operation. While there is a time investment in creating this authentic and human presence, there is no cost to join most social networks and build relationships. One way to get started is to assign staff who are saavvy and wise enough about message to start engaging in a handful of networks as a professional development activity. LinkedIn, WordPress, and Twitter might offer a handful of points of departure. Have them tell your story and theirs with the organization. See how the visibility and following builds. </p>
<p>I recommend the following articles when sharing information with novices about social media in business:<br />
*The See-Through CEO from Wired Magazine which eloquently describes the paradigm shift from closed secretive business practices to radical trust and social openess:<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html</a><br />
*Brave New World of Digital Intimacy from the New York Times where the term ambient awareness and the phenomenon of the current generation of tools is well-described:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/magazine/07awareness-t.html?partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/magazine/07awareness-t.html?partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink</a></p>
<p>Meg Canada</p>
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		<title>Comment on SM 4 B2B by Desarae Veit</title>
		<link>http://polymerstudios.com/blog/2008/10/30/sm-4-b2b/#comment-1301</link>
		<dc:creator>Desarae Veit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll agree with everything Craig said (within reason) and add my own ideas. 

1. You know their are B2B solutions ALREADY out there right? I wont bore you listing them all, because I've already spent precious hours compiling them for the masses here: http://www.sniki.org

2. Your perfectly right Executives, big spenders, and top notch managers will not wait around for you to engage them online. Neither will I. Nor will trillions of other consumers world wide. If it's done rarely in your industry right now, that doesn't mean that your target audience isn't out there. It just means either you haven't gone looking for them, or they don't yet have a place to all join together. Be that place. Build that place. Be original. Be innovative. Enough said on that point.

3. If you want to get out their, no better time then the present. Sit down, figure out your goals, figure out what your high priced world class consumers are looking for, and give it to them -- IMMEDIATELY before someone else does.

4. Worse case scenario... blog. With the right theme, the right voice, and information that is interesting and helpful to your B2B consumer you will have a great start. Just stay classy San Diego. Ok, that was just a little Will F. quote.

5. What are financial managers looking for? Tips on improving ____? What do CFO's do on a daily basis? You can improve that by ____? Or building ____ software program to integrate into your ____campaign. 

Think Mint.com think WebMD, Facebook, Twitter, or finra.org (but a little better design and a little less dull..), give your site a little pizazz, offer advice like financial-planning.com, be a place they consider professional and a prime knowledge base like alltop, consider what money.msn.com  is doing, check out my.wallst.net, be the linkedin of your community. Now don't be any of those things.. be all those things and more, up the ante.

Up the ante by hiring a social media strategist who can help you brainstorm new ideas, poll ideas from the community you will be building for, and do everything 250%.

Desarae Veit

http://www.dveit.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll agree with everything Craig said (within reason) and add my own ideas. </p>
<p>1. You know their are B2B solutions ALREADY out there right? I wont bore you listing them all, because I&#8217;ve already spent precious hours compiling them for the masses here: <a href="http://www.sniki.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.sniki.org</a></p>
<p>2. Your perfectly right Executives, big spenders, and top notch managers will not wait around for you to engage them online. Neither will I. Nor will trillions of other consumers world wide. If it&#8217;s done rarely in your industry right now, that doesn&#8217;t mean that your target audience isn&#8217;t out there. It just means either you haven&#8217;t gone looking for them, or they don&#8217;t yet have a place to all join together. Be that place. Build that place. Be original. Be innovative. Enough said on that point.</p>
<p>3. If you want to get out their, no better time then the present. Sit down, figure out your goals, figure out what your high priced world class consumers are looking for, and give it to them &#8212; IMMEDIATELY before someone else does.</p>
<p>4. Worse case scenario&#8230; blog. With the right theme, the right voice, and information that is interesting and helpful to your B2B consumer you will have a great start. Just stay classy San Diego. Ok, that was just a little Will F. quote.</p>
<p>5. What are financial managers looking for? Tips on improving ____? What do CFO&#8217;s do on a daily basis? You can improve that by ____? Or building ____ software program to integrate into your ____campaign. </p>
<p>Think Mint.com think WebMD, Facebook, Twitter, or finra.org (but a little better design and a little less dull..), give your site a little pizazz, offer advice like financial-planning.com, be a place they consider professional and a prime knowledge base like alltop, consider what money.msn.com  is doing, check out my.wallst.net, be the linkedin of your community. Now don&#8217;t be any of those things.. be all those things and more, up the ante.</p>
<p>Up the ante by hiring a social media strategist who can help you brainstorm new ideas, poll ideas from the community you will be building for, and do everything 250%.</p>
<p>Desarae Veit</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dveit.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dveit.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on SM 4 B2B by craigsanatomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>craigsanatomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!  I said "two main reasons" and then listed three.  Oh well, social media is forgiving of poor editing too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  I said &#8220;two main reasons&#8221; and then listed three.  Oh well, social media is forgiving of poor editing too <img src='http://polymerstudios.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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